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 Post subject: Which is closer to book 53 or 05???
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:25 pm 
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Let's make a list here of each characteristic in each film that is an element from the book?

Please add to to either, if I miss anything out, as I surely will.

53 - 1. Martians - 2. cylinders - 3. Heatray - 4. Heatray seen before actual FM's - 5. First cylinder/attack outside of city - 6. Cylinder lands on house with characters inside - 7. atom bomb attack replaces Thunder Child but has same meaning - 8. Martians die from terrestrial organism invasion.

05 - 1. Tripods - 2. Tenticals - 3. Baskets - 4. People are caught - 5. Blood draining - 6. Red Weed - 7. Trapped in house with madman -
8. Bodies in river - 9. birds as a sign of defeat - 10. Aliens die from terrestrial organism invasion.


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What about for the '53 movie the first battle? The Army in the book did their best to stop the Martians also before they got wiped out. In the '53 movie was about the same (but heavier in force: Mortars, Rocket Launchers, Anti-Tank Guns, Tanks, Machine Guns) As far is I have read then I think the '53 movie is closer...


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Okay your right there. Another point for 53. That's 9 points to 53 and 10 to 05. So far.


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And in the '53 movie there were also several exodusses shown, and the man who does the commentary is saying quotes from the book in his own words.


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another 2 to 53. But 05 also has exodus. So another 1 to 05. they are neck and neck now.


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That Van Buren Character got hysterical almost in the end of the trapped in the farmhouse scene, and Forrester demanded she stopped her shrieks.


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That's in both.

Looks like it just me an you on this thread Oever532


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Destroying a FM in 05,
The reunion with a family member thought to be lost in 05,
The Martian howls (although not ullas) in 05,
stealing the truck from Ray and Family scene 05, is like the, trying to steal the cart from Mrs Elphinstone scene in the book.
Taking the truck in the first place so the real owner dies 05 like the landlord of the spotted dog.
the ferry in 05
the reference to no wheels (although very subtle) in 05
Morgan Freeman reading the opening and closing lines in 05
staggering through the water (after the ferry scene) in full sight of the Martians/Aliens 05


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In the ruined house sequence, Forester had to slap Van Buren in order to stop her screaming. The acting in the 1953 movie was at least competent. (This was one of the biggest-budget sci fi flicks of the Fifties; the mere fact that it was filmed IN COLOR should tell you that much.) Oh, and the narrator in the 1953 version was British actor Sir Cedric Hardwicke.


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Lonesome Crow wrote:
...stealing the truck from Ray and Family scene 05, is like the, trying to steal the cart from Mrs Elphinstone scene in the book.


The '53 equivalent is when the mob seizes the truck Forrester is driving. The tossed out 'scientific equipment' in that '53 scene reminded me of the people fleeing in the book, and stopping over some spilled 'treasure' or another.

Another point for '53?


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Cool. But 05 is 8 points ahead now.


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Annother point (Or half-point) for '05, that I noticed after sitting with a friend who was reading WotW for the first time.

At the battle of Wheybridge, when the narrator is separated from the artilleryman amidst the chaos of the fighting, we are left to believe that the our little military friend is now dead, only to see him alive and well later on.

This is sort of a connection to Robbie's mirraculous survival after dissapearing over the hill.


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intangible factor - atmosphere. the 53 film has it and whilst 05 has atmosphere too, its not a WOTW atmosphere, its something else.


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Yuri2356 wrote:
At the battle of Wheybridge, when the narrator is separated from the artilleryman amidst the chaos of the fighting, we are left to believe that the our little military friend is now dead, only to see him alive and well later on.
This is sort of a connection to Robbie's mirraculous survival after dissapearing over the hill.



This is true. I also noticed that when I saw the movie. Hey, Loz, What's the score?


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What Score?


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Of which movie has more 'points' like the book...


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And which is it?


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Loz, YOU'RE the one who STARTED this topic! Which is now closer to the book, the movie of George Pal (1953) or the one of Steven Spielberg (2005)

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Just teasing. I knew all the time. Tee Hee and all that jazz.

The answer is I don't know and at this moment I couldn't be bothered checking over them.


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Too busy playing pranks? :lol: :wink:


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Oh, and the atom bomb sequence wasn't really comparable to the Thunder Child's death ride. The A-bomb attack was totally useless, but the Thunder Child managed to take two Fighting-Machines with her. Also, the Thunder Child was lost with all her crew, but since we didn't see the Martians even try to shoot down the Flying Wing, presumably no human lives were lost when the A-bomb was dropped.


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Annother Point for '05, though it's a bit abstract:

The Invaders are meant to symbolize a more advanced and therefore more 'civilized' society invading a lesser nation. (Just as England did back in its imperial days) In the book, we have the Martians using a nice invisible beam of heat the instantly incinerates anything it touches. A very 'clean' and 'civilized' way to massacre a species.

In the Paramount '05 film, the aliens use a weapon which causes insane ammounts of destruction, but strikes with exact precision. It kills people one at a time, or in little sweeps, making quiet little 'zap' noises all the while. When people are hit, there's a little 'puff' of ash and then nothing at all. Annother 'clean and civilized' means of destruction.

In '53 we just had loud, flashy, brightly coloured Heat rays, and even the
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Oh, and the atom bomb sequence wasn't really comparable to the Thunder Child's death ride. The A-bomb attack was totally useless, but the Thunder Child managed to take two Fighting-Machines with her. Also, the Thunder Child was lost with all her crew, but since we didn't see the Martians even try to shoot down the Flying Wing, presumably no human lives were lost when the A-bomb was dropped.


The Thunder Child was ment to sybolize the biggest power on earth, the navi fleet, and it was defeted. The a-bomb was the most powerfull weapon on earth at teh time i think...and it did not defete the martians.


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So there is some kind of similarity, considering the Thunder Child and the A-Bomb as the most powerful weapons humans could relay on in that time.


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Yuri2356 wrote:
Annother point (Or half-point) for '05, that I noticed after sitting with a friend who was reading WotW for the first time.

At the battle of Wheybridge, when the narrator is separated from the artilleryman amidst the chaos of the fighting, we are left to believe that the our little military friend is now dead, only to see him alive and well later on.

This is sort of a connection to Robbie's mirraculous survival after dissapearing over the hill.


coincidence i say. Robbie is not equivalent in any other way to the artillaryman and his disappearence and reappearance have more to do with adding to the ultra hollywood ending of 05 in my opinon.


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