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Loz
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Post subject: Battlestar Gallactica Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:27 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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The old one was a bit hit and miss. Mostly miss. But this new take on the old show is fantastic. Very gritty and pollitical. Quite sexy too.
Anyone seen it?
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Lonesome Crow
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:55 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:43 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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The old one was a poor mans Star Wars. Lucas even tried suing them, but failed. Frank Herbert also tried to sue lucas, over similararities between Star Wars and Dune. But you can't own ideas. And he lost too.
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Lonesome Crow
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:53 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:24 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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It's recently on the Dutch television. I don't know which channel it is on, though, I should check the tv-guide on that...
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Loz
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:11 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Lonesome Crow wrote: I'm a fan of Herbert's Dune but I can't see that there is much resemblance to Star Wars
Desert planet = Dune = Tatooine
Fighting with swords
Empire ruling the Galaxy
Emporer
Sand people = Fremen = Tuskan Raiders
Religion = Force
Spice in Dune - Spice mines of Kessle mentioned in Star Wars.
Moisture stills in Dune - Moisture Evaporaters in SW.
Bene Gesserits can kill witha word and make you do things as can Jedi's with the force.
There are more, but they are ideas and you can't own ideas. Lucas admitted to reading Dunec just before making Star Wars to get ideas.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:23 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Any more?
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Lonesome Crow
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:56 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Loz wrote: There are more, but they are ideas and you can't own ideas. Lucas admitted to reading Dunec just before making Star Wars to get ideas.
Yes I see what you meen, but you could say that about a lot of Sci/Fi books, a lot of those appear in Edgar Rice Burroughs' 'John Carter of Mars' books and probably dozens of other books as well.
It's like saying 'Planet of the Apes' is a copy of 'King Kong' because they both have Apes in them and both have Jungles and a scene on a beach and I belive there was a tree as well that looked very similar. If you look hard enough you will always find similaritys no matter how tentative
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Loz
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:08 am |
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Martian War Lord |
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Yeah I totally agree with you. Herbert tried to sue Lucas and lost. And rightly so. But Lucus obviuosly did get a lot of influence from Dune.
As for more, I can't remember the rest. Dune is very politiacl and so is Star Wars.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:55 am |
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Martian War Lord |
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Independence Day has on its turn similarities with War of the Worlds: Aliens attacking Earth, Earthlings make the first counter attack without success, the computer virus in ID4 is used as the replacer for the virus in WOTW. The similarity is that the aliens got defeated that way.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:06 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:01 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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The big difference is that if both invasions had happened on alternate worlds then the ID4 invasion would have been succesful. WOTW would have failed.
The virus we download in ID4 would not have been compatible with their comupters. i doubt they are windows friendly. And they would never have got that space craft off the ground.
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Lonesome Crow
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:42 am |
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Martian War Lord |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:31 am |
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Martian War Lord |
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You've got a point there.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:39 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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They'd never get the craft working. And they'd never be able to use its computers to convert something cookeed up on our own. They would be completely alien to each other.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:52 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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So by the making of the movie itself they used alternatives to make it look they did the job. What I really liked is the powering up of the City Annihilator Beam, the primary weapon of the big ship, which caused the destruction of L.A., New York, Washington D.C. Paris, Berlin, London, Moscow and many other places. The sound of the poering up thrills me!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:25 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Loz wrote: They'd never get the craft working. And they'd never be able to use its computers to convert something cookeed up on our own. They would be completely alien to each other.
A computer langueage is just mathematics and it has to follow a universal law and the best way to carry it, is in a form of binary.
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Loz
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:00 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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The language of the universe is mathematics. But I'm still not having it.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:40 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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What is your favorite language in all Sci-Fi series overall? My favs are English and Klingon (Yes, Klingon is also a language, and some Star Trek fans even speak it!)
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Loz
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:55 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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Greedo's language from Star Wars.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:13 pm |
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Martian War Lord |
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jIyaj (this is Klingon for 'I understand')
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:29 pm |
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I recently got the chance to watch the whole season as I never caught it on on its initial run and I really enjoyed it. Alot more rustig and darkers than the original and some great story telling.
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