Eve Of The War

A forum for all 'War Of The Worlds' fans
Home Page Home Page Home Page Home Page
Login 
View unanswered posts View active topics

Delete all board cookies

All times are UTC




Home Page Home Page  [ 25 posts ] 
  Print view
Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
Offline 
 Post subject: Robbins' hybrid of Curate & Artilleryman
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:07 am 
User avatar
Super Member

Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 pm
Posts: 115
Location: Boston
Just watched the Spielberg WotW. Overall, it was a very impressive modern retelling of Wells' tale. While there were plenty of borrowings from Pal's WotW, Spielberg went back to Wells more than Pal did. There's plenty to comment on, but to keep things brief, I'll just touch on one.

I liked how Friedman & Koepp wrote the survivalist character (played by Robbins). He was an interesting mix of Wells' Curate and the Artilleryman on Putney Hill. From the Curate, he got the man-going-loopy quality, but he held onto the Artilleryman's plans to survive and to take to the tunnels of the cities. The Artilleryman is one of me favorite characters from Wells' WotW, so I was glad to see him represented. Pal didn't have him.

I especially like the digging of the tunnel in the basement, as being very much Wellsian. Hines didn't include that, nor did Pal.

Speaking of Pal, while the probe-in-basement scene was an obvious homage to Pal's WotW (which was itself a modernizing of the probe-in-the -ruined-house) Spielberg did it well. The big camera eye staring at Dakota was sooo much an homage to the eye-on-Sylvia scene. Even with the hero taking an axe to the probe's...um...neck.

Even the 'silencing' of the noisy Robbins was very Wellsian.

two thumbs up.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject: Re: Robbins' hybrid of Curate & Artilleryman
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:24 am 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
gypsywlf wrote:
two thumbs up.


Shouldn't that be three?


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:37 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:31 pm
Posts: 3365
Location: N.Humberside.UK
It should be three characters as well, as Robbin's characer was called Ogilvy.
I also liked, the fact that Robbin's character used a lot of the Artilleryman's dialogue in the film.


Image
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DldFBFJgWmw&feature=player_embedded


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:39 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
Me too. I loved that scene.


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:52 pm 
Tripod King

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:07 am
Posts: 262
Location: west-central Pennsylvanai
H.G. Wells is dead, but is his estate still around? If so, somebody may be looking at a rather nasty lawsuit.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:03 am 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:31 pm
Posts: 3365
Location: N.Humberside.UK
Alland wrote:
H.G. Wells is dead, but is his estate still around? If so, somebody may be looking at a rather nasty lawsuit.

How do you mean? :-s


Image
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DldFBFJgWmw&feature=player_embedded


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:48 am 
User avatar
Super Member

Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 pm
Posts: 115
Location: Boston
Lonesome Crow wrote:
It should be three characters as well, as Robbin's characer was called Ogilvy....


True, he was named Ogilvy, but as a character, he didn't seem to take up any of Wells' astronomer's bits.

I especially liked the odd little scene in which Ray is trying to silently talk Ogilvy out of hacking the probe's long tentacle. While he usually came across as gruff and in-charge, that was a moment of almost child-like uncertainty which really helped keep Spielberg's Ogilvy unstable and anti-heroic.

I rather appreciated that subtle twist as being well in keeping with Wells' Artilleryman on Putney Hill.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:28 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
Lonesome Crow wrote:
Alland wrote:
H.G. Wells is dead, but is his estate still around? If so, somebody may be looking at a rather nasty lawsuit.

How do you mean? :-s


Can't wait for this explanation! Come on alland where are you?????


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:14 pm 
User avatar
Super Member

Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 pm
Posts: 115
Location: Boston
Loz wrote:
Lonesome Crow wrote:
Alland wrote:
H.G. Wells is dead, but is his estate still around? If so, somebody may be looking at a rather nasty lawsuit.


Can't wait for this explanation! Come on alland where are you?????


Not sure why Alland would think there would be a nasty lawsuit now. If the Wells estate disliked Spielberg doing the modern adapation at all, such a suit would have come much sooner, wouldn't it? If securing permission were necessary (and I've read that it wasn't) the estate would have had to have reviewed the screenplay before giving permission.

I had read that the Wells estate (his son?) had very much liked George Pal's '53 version. Perhaps simply being a modernized retelling isn't, in itself, a bad thing as far as the estate is concerned?

Actually, I thought the Spielberg version was closer to the book than the Pal version, which the estate liked.

What would the suit be over?


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:21 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
Come on Alland we're all waiting with baited breath for an explanation! :-k


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:57 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:31 pm
Posts: 3365
Location: N.Humberside.UK
gypsywlf wrote:
Actually, I thought the Spielberg version was closer to the book than the Pal version.

Yes agreed :| I wanted to say that but thought people would call me a philistine :oops: and chase me up a tree and set fire to it. :---


Image
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DldFBFJgWmw&feature=player_embedded


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:13 am 
User avatar
Super Member

Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 pm
Posts: 115
Location: Boston
Lonesome Crow wrote:
gypsywlf wrote:
Actually, I thought the Spielberg version was closer to the book than the Pal version.

Yes agreed :| I wanted to say that but thought people would call me a philistine :oops: and chase me up a tree and set fire to it. :---


Oh dear. Then I may be in some danger. ':shock:'

While I always had a boyish fascination for the Pal swan ships, Spielberg's tripods were much closer to the book. Despite the apparent eagerness to despise, I thought Spielberg did a good job of portraying the tripods as huge, destructive and freightening.

While some might prefer the Hines tripods, I found them underwhelming. Maybe with smoother animation, and better lighting, and more acute camera angles, even the Hines models could have portrayed some fear. As it was, their effect was lost -- like if you'd seen the models before film.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:48 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
I much preffer the Parramount Tripods to Pendragon ones. Even if the Pendragon ones had been animated by the same team and cash as Parramounts they just are not as good looking. Big sausage tenticals!!!
I quite like the Pendragon Handling Machine though. But we have nothing to compare it with in Parramount movie.

I think this movie is a lot closer to the book than 53 film. But obviously Pendragon is closest of all.

And if any one tries to chase me up a tree, then they'll find I've got very big teeth. :a093:


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:51 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
Loz wrote:
And if any one tries to chase me up a tree, then they'll find I've got very big teeth. :a093:


*gulps* How many have tried to do that? The people who tried that trick to me are among the ones who were buried recently in a garden in Maastricht, so I'm convinced we have our ways to gat rid of annoying people in our neighbourhood.


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:31 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
What would I do without you?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:54 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
You wouldn't have a 'forum friend' to talk as much with as we do now. :lol: :D =D> :wink:


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:57 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
\:D/


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:59 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
And I second that. I'm having a great time here on this forum! =D> \:D/ :D


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:17 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
:lol: :D :P =D> =D> :mrgreen: \:D/ :wink: 8)


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:20 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
And I second that too! :D :) 8) :lol: :P :mrgreen: :wink: =D> \:D/ :a007: =P~


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:38 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
oever532 wrote:
And I second that too! :D :) 8) :lol: :P :mrgreen: :wink: =D> \:D/ :a007: =P~


Not to sure about the last two faces :?: :?: :?: :?:


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:26 am 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:31 pm
Posts: 3365
Location: N.Humberside.UK
Yes a bit worrying :wink: :lol:


Image
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DldFBFJgWmw&feature=player_embedded


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:25 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
Oh well, I just added them for fun... :mrgreen: :a037:


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:02 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:00 pm
Posts: 2870
Location: Liverpool, UK
I know we're only joking arounde. :P


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


Top
 Profile  
 
Offline 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:18 pm 
User avatar
Martian War Lord

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm
Posts: 3114
Location: Ridderkerk, the Netherlands
That's what I thought... :lol:


The Tempest is an advanced assault vehicle, which carries two heavy Heat-Rays and a Canister Launcher.
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Search for:
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Home Page Home Page  [ 25 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum
Jump to:  

cron
Powered by Skin-Lab © Alpha Trion