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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:41 pm 
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Was browsing Ebay for the Asylum one and came across this with no starting bid, I was just wondering from those of you who have seen it? Would it be worth a lowly £1?


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Collectors item maybe? Surely got to be worth a pound...


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:09 pm 
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I'm interested in seeing this one as well as having it for...fan purposes...


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The land battle sequences are actually quite well done. Wells' novel is followed all the way, including the death of the Martian at Weybridge and the smashing of a tripod leg on another one near the approach to London. As for the naval battle.... This is the first film version to show the "Thunder Child", and that's about all that can be said for it. The computer animation was poorly done, and you can't even see any sailors on board the thing, not even firing the exposed cannons on top of the deck, and you see no one abandoning ship as it goes down (it sinks bow first, like the "Titanic" did, rather than blowing up).

The editing is choppy, and some scenes are messed up by being shown out of sequence. For instance, we first learn of the tripod' existence when the narrator's brother in London reads of them in a newspaper account, NOT when the narrator gets sideswiped by one when returning the horse and cart to the guy at Woking. Of course, we all knew the things would show up, but the effect would spoil things for anyone totally unfamiliar with the story.

Most of the special effects are poor. The design of the tripods is all right, but their movement is clumsy; in several scenes, the entire thing slides along abruptly instead of walking on legs. There is also (in the brief attack on London scene) a poorly done sequence of Big Ben getting blasted. The most ghoulish goofup comes when the Heat-Ray makes its debut against the spectators around the sand pits: A number of the victims writhe about in agony AFTER they have already been reduced to skeletons! Good for a horror movie covering black magic, bad for a film where science is on top.

Most of the characters are all right, particularly the artilleryman, and the curate is quite believable as the cowardly, gluttonous loser who drives the narrator crazy when they're trapped together beneath the wrecked house. As stated above, the battle sequences actually show fighting, which is more than can be said for Spielburg's junk. Because of this, I actually give the Pendragon film a "lessor of two evils" boost above Paramount's lavishly-done version. Caveat emptor.


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It's worth a pound to a fan. I paid more than that, I can tell you. However I hate it. It is awful. But as a big fan of the book I just had to see it. I've seen it now. I'll never watch it again.
I don't agree with alland that the land battles are done well or that there is anything remotely good about it. But he obvoiusly likes parts of the film and some other folks do too, so your call.


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Just to drive you critics into a wilder frenzy, I think I'll take this opportunity to point out that not only was the Pendragon film reasonably faithful to Wells' novel, but the hated naval battle was partially faithful to the "Thunder Child" song in the musical version. Just see if the first part of the battle doesn't conform to:

Moving swiftly through the waters,
Cannons blazing as she came.
Brought a mighty metal warlord,
Crashing down in sheets of flame.

Sensing victory was nearing,
Thinking fortune must have smiled.
People started cheering,
"Come on Thunder Child.
Come on Thunder Child!"

Okay, so there wasn't really any flame as the first Fighting-Machine went down, and the cheering was of the silent kind on the faces of the spectators. Picky, picky, picky. And as for the lack of crewmen on the ship, Jeff Wayne doesn't mention any crewmen either. Having mentioned this, I'll retire gracefully now, before the cries of "Blasphemy!" overwhelm my computer screen.


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Uh-oh, looks like someone has gotten VERY angry at what Alland had said... :a103:


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Alland wrote:
Just to drive you critics into a wilder frenzy, I think I'll take this opportunity to point out that not only was the Pendragon film reasonably faithful to Wells' novel, but the hated naval battle was partially faithful to the "Thunder Child" song in the musical version. Just see if the first part of the battle doesn't conform to:

Moving swiftly through the waters,
Cannons blazing as she came.
Brought a mighty metal warlord,
Crashing down in sheets of flame.

Sensing victory was nearing,
Thinking fortune must have smiled.
People started cheering,
"Come on Thunder Child.
Come on Thunder Child!"

Okay, so there wasn't really any flame as the first Fighting-Machine went down, and the cheering was of the silent kind on the faces of the spectators. Picky, picky, picky. And as for the lack of crewmen on the ship, Jeff Wayne doesn't mention any crewmen either. Having mentioned this, I'll retire gracefully now, before the cries of "Blasphemy!" overwhelm my computer screen.

So the naval battle was 'partially faithful' to the Jeff Wayne version - big deal, it was supposed to be an adaptation of the novel, not an adaptation of someone else's other adaptation.

In any case, I'd dispute that it was even vaguely faithful to Wayne's musical. I don't remember any lyrics that went:

Moving sideways across the waters,
Cannons emitting orange CGI blobs as she came.
Brought a shighty metal chicken,
Crashing down in odd bits of CGI 'wreckage' lazily drifting around.

Sensing victory was nearing,
Thinking fortune must have smiled.
Three people started looking constipated,
"Come on Chunder Child.
Come on Chunder Child!"
None of them cried,
As they looked on in embarassed silence.


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Now it'll be Jeff Wayne's turn to yell "Blasphemy!"


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McTodd wrote:
Moving sideways across the waters,
Cannons emitting orange CGI blobs as she came.
Brought a shighty metal chicken,
Crashing down in odd bits of CGI 'wreckage' lazily drifting around.

Sensing victory was nearing,
Thinking fortune must have smiled.
Three people started looking constipated,
"Come on Chunder Child.
Come on Chunder Child!"
None of them cried,
As they looked on in embarassed silence.


Mid you, it would have been quite funny to hear them sing that on the album...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:06 pm 
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This reminds me of my childhood spoof of war of the worlds. Pretty odd spoof for an 8 or 9 year old. It was called War of the Babies and I used to make little comics of it and talk about it all the time. The Martians are replaced by giant babies in giant baby walkers, have dirty nappy rays instead of heatrays and were finally beaten off by Grannies fireing nitting needles at them! Very odd little boy I was. I based it on the musical, and spoofed up all the songs.


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Sounds more like H.G.s 'The Food of the Gods' :lol:


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:-s


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Loz wrote:
This reminds me of my childhood spoof of war of the worlds. Pretty odd spoof for an 8 or 9 year old. It was called War of the Babies and I used to make little comics of it and talk about it all the time. The Martians are replaced by giant babies in giant baby walkers, have dirty nappy rays instead of heatrays and were finally beaten off by Grannies fireing nitting needles at them! Very odd little boy I was. I based it on the musical, and spoofed up all the songs.


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Loz wrote:
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Have you not read 'Food of the God's'? :-s


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Giant food and Animals, I get you now. i was thinking about the grannies and the dirty nappy rays.

Sorry to have upset you Neoendgame. But all the best spoofs are done lovingly and with care, or they don't work.


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Surely the dirty nappys would be the same as the poison gas canisters?


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I've got a coppy, will watch it later. :mrgreen:


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Loz wrote:
Sorry to have upset you Neoendgame. But all the best spoofs are done lovingly and with care, or they don't work.


*Sniff*

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The Beatles are by far my favourite band, but I still love the Rutles film which spoofs them, and I have both Rutle albums, which I play very often and think are works of sheer genius. Just like War of the Babies! Sheer genius. I'll get it made one day, then you can have a fit. :mrgreen:


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