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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:18 am 
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This is amazing. i never thought that I would see this. This happened about two weeks ago. I was sitting in my back garden, fairly early in the morning as the baby had got me up. I saw something moving out of the corner of my eye. I had a closer look, and moving with incredible speed was a small parasitic wasp, with a bloody big garden spider in its jaws, which was paralysed. I watched it drag the spider right across the patio and under a dandiloin weed that still is growing out of a crack between the bottom of the patio door to the ground.
It was at least four or five times bigger than it. I tried to film it but messed up.
Just think that spider now has parasitic wasp grubs growing in its belly, which are slowly devouring it from the inside out while it is still alive.


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That is of course possible. The wasp was apparently lucky regarding the spieces of spider. I once watched a ducumentary of National Geoghaphic Channel and I saw two battles between a Jumping Spider and a Praying Mantis. In the first battle, the spider won with ease, but in the second battle the false eyes of a Flower Mantis confused the spider and the spider lost the battle. So things can go hard in the animal kingdom. Hunters can become the Hunted!


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Yeah that's true. Did you know that a Preying Mantis or Mantid is the only insect that can turn its head round, independently of its body?


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No. Did you know that the Portia, a spieces of jumping spiders, has the capability to workout plans in her head to reach her goal, and that she can deceive her prey by taking on them from another angle if her first efforts won't work?


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yes, i saw a scientific test of that on a documentory. The Jumping Spider has forward planning.


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I watched the spider in action in the NGC Documentary called Spider Power, where a Portia out-smarted a venomous Cross-Spider, by taking her out from above, after the Cross-Spider saw through her tactic of mimicking a struggling insect.


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Have you heard of flatworm learning?

If you put a flatworm in a maze the worm will blunder around until it solves the maze, then if you mince up that flatworm and feed it to other flatworms they will automatically know how to solve the maze. :a103:


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Now there's also some kind of intelligence there. Orb-Weaver can be that way too, If they've build a normal web on a day, and they catch prey and all that, then the next day the spider will memorize the area or area's of the web that gave the best results in catching the prey, so they simply enlarge those area's on the moment they build a new web.


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This might keep you bug guys happy...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread152647/pg1


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Horrible !!!!!


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Nah, I'm more fond of spiders...


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Is this any better ?
http://www.uglybug.org/index99.shtml


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I can feel a shiver down my spine doing this...


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That's your lot...
I'm going to find a bloody big rolled up newspaper now!!!

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/spiders.html


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Thanks for the link, Klaatu... but don't exaggerate. Spiders are harmless (and DON'T say especially when they're dead!).


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Only when they're in another Country that I'm not in !!!! :lol:


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Now that's rather difficult, since spiders can live almost everywhere. The only places where you may not find them is in the North Pole and the South Pole. They can live up to certain heights on mountains as well, maybe up to 2000 - 4000 meters high...


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When a volcano erupts and forms a new island. The first inhabitants are spiders. Some baby spiders are so small, that when they float on their web strands to find new ground, they in fact float so high that it is possible some leave ther atmosphere.


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That totally depends on what the wind is planning with them...


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Loz wrote:
When a volcano erupts and forms a new island. The first inhabitants are spiders. Some baby spiders are so small, that when they float on their web strands to find new ground, they in fact float so high that it is possible for some leave ther atmosphere.


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Like I said, once their floating in the air, they're totally dependent on where the wind will take them... :roll:


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I don't know why that repeated itself????????????????????


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Has nothing to do with me, you're the one who quoted yourself. :mrgreen:


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I was trying to edit and hit the wrong button. #-o


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That explains everything... :roll:


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