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 Post subject: How the London Scenes could have been better
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:39 pm 
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Having pondered the total lack of conviction in the London scenes, especially the truncated Dead London sequence, it occurs to me that with a different approach, Hines could have made these scenes vastly better without spending huge amounts of money (or even, probably, any more than he actually did spend).

Namely, he could have used Photoshopped (or equivalent) images instead of those dreadful cardboardish CGI monstrosities. He already used loads of green/bluescreen, so why not use it with photographic backgrounds? A few minutes of Googling would have turned up photos of Victorian London, which could have been hand-tinted using Photoshop. Or if he needed higher res images, he could have ordered CD-Roms of photos of ‘old London’ – even his budget should have stretched to that.

Images of ruins in London could have been created in two ways. One, he could have simply used photographs of London during the Blitz – after all, many of the buildings damaged and destroyed by bombs were Victorian or older – as here (clearly he’d have to use images without people in them, or obviously post-Victorian artefacts, but you get my point):

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Two, for buildings not damaged, he could have painted the damage in using Photoshop, as was done for the following (which is not by me):

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Large: http://www.worth1000.com/entries/116500/116746MSur.jpg)

Had he used techniques like these, not only would the London scenes have been ten times better, but the time he’d have saved by not having to construct that appalling CGI London would have been better spent on, say, the Thunder Child scene.

Of course, none of this would have helped with the poor script, dreadful acting, and appalling editing. But at least it would have been less unendurable from a visual perspective.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:07 pm 
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You wonder why he didn't use these techniques. Even old fashioned Fx would have been better. Models in stead of CGI.


Bah bah black sheap April diamond spheres, Rigsby, Rigsby, Eight sided Pears.


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 Post subject: Re: How the London Scenes could have been better
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:31 pm 
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McTodd wrote:
Having pondered the total lack of conviction in the London scenes, especially the truncated Dead London sequence, it occurs to me that with a different approach, Hines could have made these scenes vastly better without spending huge amounts of money (or even, probably, any more than he actually did spend)....


I would think that the IWM would have plenty of images of London damaged by either the Zeppelins or Gotha bombers of WWI. The architecture and artifacts would be much closer to 1898, and might not need much, if any, fixing. WWI images wouldn't have been as well recognized as Blitz pix.

Arm-chair kibitzing, after the fact. (but then, Hines didn't ask me, either.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:44 pm 
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Good point, although there wouldn't be as many images because the Great War bombers didn't do nearly so much damage.

Nevertheless, the point is a valid one - there are many sources from which Timbo could have obtained the requisite images. All it called for was a bit of imagination. Fat bleeding chance...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:12 am 
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The sillyness doesn't stop there though does it. The Martians squeels were straight out of Scooby Doo or the New Smoo.


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