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Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:57 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
Here's an oldie but goldie.

From my rapidograph pen days.

It's A2, so you'll be missing a lot of the tiny details.

:a103: =D> Flaming Hell Loz that's good, it must have taken you ages, I can see Woodroffe's influence again =D>
Loz wrote:
Thanks Lonesome. You are the only person who doth come here. :-({|=
As you have just pointed out over on 'The Invasion of Earth' thread, I maybe the only one commenting but I'm not the only one visiting, so keep up the good work and post some more :wink:

P.S. this may sound like a strange question but, Are you left handed?
Author:  Loz [ Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:49 am ]
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It took a few weeks I think. Says on it somewhere.

I'm not left handed. My Mum and Dad are. My Mum's a good artist. I'll post something of hers later. Why did you ask?
Author:  Loz [ Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Darkened in Photoshop.
Using the poster edges tool.

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Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:53 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
It took a few weeks I think. Says on it somewhere.

I'm not left handed. My Mum and Dad are. My Mum's a good artist. I'll post something of hers later. Why did you ask?

Hands are notoriously difficult to draw if you haven't got a model, I'm left handed so when I want to draw or paint a hand I pose my right hand and of course draw it with my left hand, consequently my pictures of right hands always look better than my pictures of left hands if you see what I mean and yours are the same, so I assumed you did the same.
Author:  Loz [ Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:28 am ]
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No I'm just terrible at drawing hands. :lol: Everything I draw I usually almost always do without using references. I just do it from the head, which is why everything looks odd. But I quite like that. Hands suffer the most of course, so I usually just avoided them, or did them terribly. I'd use references now.
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:25 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
No I'm just terrible at drawing hands.

That's the point I was trying to make, your hands are surprisingly good (except for Dominique's :lol: ), I have seen much worse from professional artists.
I used to have a scrapbook with pictures of hands, in every possible position, cut out of newspapers and magazines, but I replaced it about ten years ago with an art book called 'Drawing Dynamic Hands' it has been very useful.
Author:  Loz [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:46 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
Loz wrote:
No I'm just terrible at drawing hands.

That's the point I was trying to make, your hands are surprisingly good (except for Dominique's :lol: ), I have seen much worse from professional artists.
I used to have a scrapbook with pictures of hands, in every possible position, cut out of newspapers and magazines, but I replaced it about ten years ago with an art book called 'Drawing Dynamic Hands' it has been very useful.


Dominique has perfect han... erm hooks!

Come on my hands are bad. You're just being nice.
Author:  Loz [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  I Love Her More Than Atomic War
This is another one in a similar style. It's an earlier attempt, which shows. With each new one I got better and more detailed, I did about 4 and then I went colour. This one has hidden words and sentences, large enough to see if you look carefully. Although again reduced size obscures detail. This was a gift to my eldest sister, who is no longer with us. It survived a house fire and she gave me it back, for fear of another fire taking it.

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Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:21 am ]
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I can see a lot of the hidden words but not enough to make a coherent sentence yet, I shall keep looking.

[-X And no I wasn't just being nice, I know how hard hands are to draw, cartoonists give their creations only three fingers and a thumb to stop the hand looking like a bunch of bananas, if I'd thought they were crap I wouldn't have brought them up in the first place. :)
Author:  Loz [ Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:58 am ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
I can see a lot of the hidden words but not enough to make a coherent sentence yet, I shall keep looking.

[-X And no I wasn't just being nice, I know how hard hands are to draw, cartoonists give their creations only three fingers and a thumb to stop the hand looking like a bunch of bananas, if I'd thought they were crap I wouldn't have brought them up in the first place. :)


Ok fair enough! :D
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Self Abuse
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This is one of the last pieces of art I did. Apart from sketches. It took a good while. I used water soluble crayons but once I'd done a few layers the paper started to tear. Should of used thicker paper. Anyway, this meant I had to stop. I wasn't happy about that as I wanted to give it more depth. And fix a few problems but it's not bad.
Although not many people actually like this picture. Don't know why? :-k
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:24 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
And fix a few problems but it's not bad.
Although not many people actually like this picture. Don't know why? :-k

It's not bad at all Loz, maybe a few shadows under the witches to help make them look as though they are on the ground and not floating above it.
So what's going on? It ain't Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg is it? :lol: It looks like some early form of abortion, but it's a bit drastic [-X I see the pictures called 'SelfAbuse', but what's the story behind it? Tell us more. :mrgreen:
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:34 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
Loz wrote:
And fix a few problems but it's not bad.
Although not many people actually like this picture. Don't know why? :-k

It's not bad at all Loz, maybe a few shadows under the witches to help make them look as though they are on the ground and not floating above it.
So what's going on? It ain't Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg is it? :lol: It looks like some early form of abortion, but it's a bit drastic [-X I see the pictures called 'SelfAbuse', but what's the story behind it? Tell us more. :mrgreen:


Yeah you are right about the shadows. And some of the angles are out too. The witch who is kneeling really needs a shadow under her.

The story behind it is this - the pregnant witches are a metaphor for bad thoughts. The impaling is a metaphor for the suppression of bad thoughts.
Everyday I have to suppress negative energy and what I can only describe as evil energies within me. This picture symbolizes the war I rage against my Id.

The two dead bodies symbolize dead ideas, because sometimes bad thoughts can produce great art. In a way the picture is a paradox of that.

The cutting off of the foot symbolizes the hobbling effect self censorship can have on the artist.

Definitely not Wyerd Sisters! :lol:
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:32 pm ]
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:shock: Deep man :shock:

I see there is a trick with the perspective as well, the witch on her knees has her hand on the floor and it appears to be further forward than the other witches foot, but the other witches foot is in front of the kneeling witches arm. is this deliberate or just a happy accident, it does help to create a disturbing illusion, the viewer can see somethings not quite right but can't put their finger on it, I once did the same with a picture of an hourglass, the rods that joined the top and bottom of the hourglass sometimes appeared in front of the glass and sometimes appeared behind the glass, a bit of an M. C. Escher moment. :a037:
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:50 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
:shock: Deep man :shock:

I see there is a trick with the perspective as well, the witch on her knees has her hand on the floor and it appears to be further forward than the other witches foot, but the other witches foot is in front of the kneeling witches arm. is this deliberate or just a happy accident, it does help to create a disturbing illusion, the viewer can see somethings not quite right but can't put their finger on it, I once did the same with a picture of an hourglass, the rods that joined the top and bottom of the hourglass sometimes appeared in front of the glass and sometimes appeared behind the glass, a bit of an M. C. Escher moment. :a037:


A happy accident.

The same sort of thing is happening with the second witches spike.
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:44 pm ]
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I see what you mean, from the angle of the hand the pointed end of the spike should be aimed out of the picture, toward the viewer, I hadn't noticed that one. sort of serendipitous.
Author:  Loz [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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I like it though. I'll make out to anyone else that it was all part of the plan.
:---

Here's a couple pics of Batman.

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Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:31 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
I like it though. I'll make out to anyone else that it was all part of the plan.
:---

That's the idea, a little bit of BS can go a long way. \:D/
8-[ It's always worked for me :mrgreen:

Good Batmans =D> I like the watercolour effect, it makes it look almost like a stained-glass window.
Author:  Loz [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:20 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
Loz wrote:
I like it though. I'll make out to anyone else that it was all part of the plan.
:---

That's the idea, a little bit of BS can go a long way. \:D/
8-[ It's always worked for me :mrgreen:

Good Batmans =D> I like the watercolour effect, it makes it look almost like a stained-glass window.


Yeah it does.

Here's another I've unearthed - 28 Felt Tip Pens.

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Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:50 pm ]
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=D> =D> =D> I like it.
Why '28 Felt Tip Pens'? it looks like you've used coloured pencils not Felt Tip Pens.

It reminds me of graffiti art and I don't mean that in a disparaging way we have some great graffiti artists in Hull and the Council have set aside part of an estate just for them and their talent, this picture reminded me of that.
Are the names significant? I see Kate Bush is there.
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:01 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
=D> =D> =D> I like it.
Why '28 Felt Tip Pens'? it looks like you've used coloured pencils not Felt Tip Pens.

It reminds me of graffiti art and I don't mean that in a disparaging way we have some great graffiti artists in Hull and the Council have set aside part of an estate just for them and their talent, this picture reminded me of that.
Are the names significant? I see Kate Bush is there.


It is all felt tip, pl;us ink outlines. I bought a pack of 28 felt tips. My technique was to use the ink outline to dirty the felt tip and then as I brushed it away from the outline it would be dirty at first but get less dirty as I moved out and I got the shading that way. I think that's why it looks like pencils. I didn't start using pencils until a few years later.
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:02 pm ]
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The names all have significance. Either somone I knew, or admired or had created as a character in my writings.

I love graf and I see what you mean.
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
My technique was to use the ink outline to dirty the felt tip and then as I brushed it away from the outline it would be dirty at first but get less dirty as I moved out and I got the shading that way.

A good technique, I like the affect. =D> Felt-tip pens are usually over bright and garish this tones it down nicely, your own idea?
Author:  Loz [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:15 pm ]
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Lonesome Crow wrote:
Loz wrote:
My technique was to use the ink outline to dirty the felt tip and then as I brushed it away from the outline it would be dirty at first but get less dirty as I moved out and I got the shading that way.

A good technique, I like the affect. =D> Felt-tip pens are usually over bright and garish this tones it down nicely, your own idea?


My own idea. I've never come across another artist who has used that technique. Maybe I invented it. :-k Probably not. But I hadn't come across it before. So I invented it in a way. 8)
Author:  Lonesome Crow [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:55 pm ]
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Loz wrote:
My own idea. I've never come across another artist who has used that technique. Maybe I invented it. :-k Probably not. But I hadn't come across it before. So I invented it in a way. 8)
=D> now you're getting the hang of it :lol:
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